20 comments:

Griffin said...

I found you another original:

張國榮+麥潔文 - Miracle
B.J. Thomas - I Never Could Have Made It Without You

April 22, 2010 at 1:36 AM  

Griffin said...

"Don't Lie To Me" (released in 2000) was probably "original" besides the finished demo from the song writers!

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=531147830&search_in=i&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=20&start=1

And finally someone (Tuula) had recorded the song "Why Did You Lie To Me" (released in 2001 "Inside Your Love").

http://www.fono.fi/KappaleenTiedot.aspx?kappale=lie+to+me&culture=sv&ID=96a6a824-2178-4e46-96ac-663279337788

See whether you can find a preview! I didn't!

April 22, 2010 at 2:08 PM  

Griffin said...

大碟: Forever (2001年03月)

歌曲: Tonight And Forever
原版: Tonight And Forever

http://hkbbs.biz/viewthread.php?tid=51577

Involvement of Thomas Ahlstrand　in the arrangement made this an original!

詞：Thomas Ahlstrand / Peter Malmrup　曲：Thomas Ahlstrand / Peter Malmrup
編曲：Thomas Ahlstrand　製作：Alvin Leong / Leslie Cheung

American boy band B3 recorded the song & released as single "Tonight And Forever" in 2002!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=936epHI1UMo

And 飛輪海 re-did it as 至少還有我 in 2008!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBQqYb6yL4

April 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM  

铅笔小丁 said...

I have that "Why Did You Lie To Me". Last summer I spend a lot of time finding the original info and then searched on Taobao. Luckily I bought one for a very cheap price!

If needed, I will send the file to you guys. ~

April 22, 2010 at 3:03 PM  

铅笔小丁 said...

Griffin, do you have that song by B.J. Thomas? Benny also found that earlier, but it looks to a version recorded in 2000s? B.J. Thomas is the original singer? I contacted one of the composers Justin Peters, he briefly told me that song was first cut in Hong Kong (or Asia? I can't remember clearly)...

April 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM  

Griffin said...

铅笔小丁, good for you! "Why Did You Lie To Me" is the same song as "Don't Lie To Me"! So I'm right. Perhaps Benny will post the song in the near future! Speaking strictly: it is not an ORIGINAL then!

About B.J. Thomas: I didn't know until now! I found "Love To Burn". I thought it's a compilation/Greatest Hits/Best Of. But you both suggesting it's a Re-recorded release! Too bad, I don't have "I Never Could Have Made It (Without You)"! I can only find the followin:

http://www.faqs.org/copyright/how-i-met-my-new-grandfather-from-idiots-first-w-and-m-marc-2/#id7335423

I never could have made it (without you)
Type of Work:Musical work
Registration Number / Date:PAu000485902 / 1983-03-14

Date of Creation:1983

Title:I never could have made it (without you) / by Steve Davis, Justin Peters.

Description:1 p.

Copyright Claimant:Dick James Music, Inc. & Ben Peters Music

Authorship on Application:words & music: Stephen A. Davis & Justin Peters.

Perhaps B.J. Thomas had a different artist name (or in a band/group) when he first recorded the song!

April 22, 2010 at 4:34 PM  

Griffin said...

大碟: Forever (2001年03月)

歌曲: Tonight And Forever
原版: Cyclones - Tonight And Forever ????

http://smdb.kb.se/catalog/id/001545680

Cyclones recorded the song & released as single "Tonight And Forever" in 2001 (before or after Leslie's release?)!

And what the involvement of Thomas Ahlstrand　in the arrangement (編曲：Thomas Ahlstrand)?

April 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM  

Favorites In Original said...

I found this:

OT:I never could have made it without you OC/OA: Stephen Allen Davis + Justin Peters

Could that be Stephen Allen Davis himself the original singer??? He was a singer songwriter.

http://stephenallendavis.com/story.php

Any of you guys interested to write him and ask??

April 23, 2010 at 1:39 AM  

Griffin said...

張國榮 沒有愛 粵 大熱 作曲：Ahistrand/Bertilsson/Broman

Woh, this one is tough! All info's found are 張國榮 or 沒有愛 related.

http://www.thelyricarchive.com/album/233167/Greatest-Heat---Untitled
says it's Broman, Paul Ahlstrand, Annelie Bertilsson! But I don't believe it. Paul Ahlstrand (jazz) is American. OP was Warner/ Chappell Music Scandinavia AB.

Leslie's Tonight And Forver was also from (and arranged by) Thomas Ahlstrand (http://www.myspace.com/thomasahlstrand). People who works with Thomas Ahlstrand are:

*Peter Jan Bertilsson (also works with Laura Pausini)
*Peter Broman

I'll google some more on it!

April 24, 2010 at 12:11 AM  

Griffin said...

Well, I'm almost sure 張國榮 - 沒有愛 is an original! Around 2000 there were many HK songs were composed by Thomas Ahlstrand:

容祖兒 - 美麗在望 (H2O全新TVC廣告歌曲)
曲：Thomas Ahlstrand
詞：林夕
編：王雙駿

大概是你 為我兩眼洗澡
絕對是你 給我氧氣賜我濕度
未抱著你 便已愛上水泡
水一般世界 完全改變色素

能望透愛是為誰造 流動了美麗大道

* See you everywhere 不必擔心失戀
遇著眼緣 連鋼筋都鬆軟
See you everywhere
世界是個花園 段段眼緣 為你兜圈 *

大概是你 讓我看到最好
視線若翹著你 連水母也堅壯
絕對是你 叫細沙像蜜糖
多一點看你 能使我更好看
無論我對甚麼晌往 陪著你美麗在望
眉目人人憐愛 誰人能離得開

郭富城 - 美麗戰友
作詞：李敏　作曲：Thomas Ahlstrand/Patrick Tsang　編曲：褚鎮東

陪伴我在身邊　飾演天使
凝聚在我心中　無比的恩賜
你每說一些好主意　令我似配得百合匙
從此可開啟困境之處

陪我笑　陪我哭
陪我一起想過去
陪我哼一首最愛的戀曲

尋到你　而滿足　明白以後怎繼續
我只需身邊有你　贏得勇氣
轉載來自 魔鏡歌詞網

環視在我身邊　滿是浮華
平靜在我心中　和暖像熱茶
我盼你不須多牽掛
習慣了　我懂得招架
能分析一張臉的真假

我有我美麗戰友　我有我最大滿足

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Ahlstrand also mentioned his composition (not saying a cover) won an award (song of the year 2000) in HK. Like I said before all found info's were only related to 張國榮 - 沒有愛. Nothing could be found which involved all 3 song writers. I even found his Chinese name (托馬斯·阿爾斯特蘭得). But also no result. It could be that they did a demo!

April 24, 2010 at 4:38 AM  

Favorites In Original said...

Griffin, just sent you an email but it bounded back. Anyway, just want to tell you I will take a listen to these albums you asked me to download, see if we’ll find anything.

I was also looking at these two composers last night. I think their full names are André Ceccarelli & Bernard Arcadio. If you google with these names together, you would find much more results. They even have an album together in 1985, I thought that could be a great possibility.

http://www.discogs.com/André-Ceccarelli-Bernard-Arcadio-Project-One/release/2172073

April 24, 2010 at 10:43 AM  

Griffin said...

I've got your e-mail said there's no good match. That's the one?

I've found that info's already. But nowhere I could find that album. So I kept looking further & glad I cound find some "preview"-material from them.

Our journey will be very tough for this original.

April 24, 2010 at 2:53 PM  

铅笔小丁 said...

hi, regarding 没有爱 and Tonight and Forever, here is a reply last year from a Warner/Chappell Music Scandinavia staffer:

Hi !

Tonight & Forever was recorded by Cyclones on this release:

http://www.amazon.de/Tonight-Forever-Cyclones/dp/B00005S3M8

http://www.imeem.com/lesliegorgor/music/CG5D6h92/leslie_cheung_tonight_and_forevermp3/
Tonight and Forever
Written by Thomas Ahlstrand / Peter Malmrup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqLZpiDFyc4
I miss You
Written by Thomas Ahlstrand/Peter Bertilsson/Peter Broman

Asian income only, no original recording known.

So it is clear that 没有爱 is an original for Leslie, but Tonight and Forever should be a cover.

May 5, 2010 at 3:51 PM  

Griffin said...

铅笔小丁, thanks for clearing this up for us! So Benny won't busting our asses to find the original ;)

Does anyone have Cyclones - Tonight And Forever? I've bought & received my B3 CD-single! But some say the Cyclones' version is much better: it will give you the chill!

May 5, 2010 at 7:45 PM  

Griffin said...

張國榮 - 愛的抉擇 (=Stardust Revue - Triangle Love) see here:
http://favoritesinoriginal-albums.blogspot.com/2011/02/leslie.html

March 3, 2011 at 5:00 PM  

Favorites In Original said...

I think Leslie's big fan 小丁 verified that it was a false note on that CD:

Preview here:

Stardust Revue - Triangle Love
http://www.1ting.com/player/17/player_43825.html

張國榮 - 愛的抉擇
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B79nrim5Z9A

March 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM  

Anonymous said...

別話-張國榮
Original: 大約在冬季-齊秦

February 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM  

超級樂迷 said...

張國榮的CD內註明"愛的決擇"原作曲者是Motoaki Masuo(增尾元章), 但永遠最愛CD內的"TRIANGLE LOVE"的作曲者是"根本要",並且怎也聽不出是同一首歌,編曲不同這個不是問題,我猜內裡可能出錯了,Melody完全沒有一句歌詞是吻合的,有沒有人同意呢?

November 2, 2013 at 8:29 PM  

Anonymous said...

Totally agreed! That was a false claim by record company Sony. We're not out yet! Our "Japanese Cover/Original"-expert is still working on that. Stay tuned! Or check this blog's facebook!

Griffin

November 6, 2013 at 6:48 AM  

google said...

關於 愛的決擇 原作曲者是 Motoaki Masuo (增尾元章)
*Sony 應該沒弄錯喔*
2007年的BLOG 一篇 https://blog.goo.ne.jp/anemone339/e/3018aff52a447e8e98c51d99cda90e2a
這BLOG主指出 剛好是名字一樣而已 是 *同名異曲*
增尾元章 的 TRIANGLE LOVE 是 062-1087-2 那首 (而作品副題亦有寫到AI DE JUE ZE)
(而 STARDUST REVUE 使用的 TRIANGLE LOVE 是 025-6997-3 , 根本要 作曲,
另外歌曲名字完全相同的 資料庫有八首 像這樣名字比較菜市場的先不要咬定弄錯......)
一般社団法人日本音楽著作権協会 JASRAC https://www2.jasrac.or.jp/eJwid/

BLOG亦有提及 STAND　UP 大碟內兩首增尾元章的歌
YOU　DON'T　LOVE　ME　ANYMORE 是 Love Me More 原曲
NIGHT　TRAIN 是 寂寞獵人 原曲
然後BLOG主也有聯絡到作者本人 但我根本不會日文就不獻醜了 請自行解讀第一條連結的原文

May 16, 2022 at 1:05 AM  

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